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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:18 am 
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In a post from a couple of years ago, I asked about the move to go to denier vs 0/0 sizing for tying thread--mainly I wondered what denier equaled what 0/0. The move to denier was supposedly so there would be consistency in sizing among manufacturers.

One retailer site says the 70 Denier (smallest I can find) is good for #14-#32, but I don' care for it much for anything below #18. I bumped the thread up to a Uni-Thread 8/0 and could swear I saw a difference with the naked eye. Seems many retailers are only selling 8/0 as their smallest offering and some are selling 12/0. But--any one know what happened to 10/0?

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 Post subject: Re: Thread Sizes
PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:31 am 
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I don't know if this is exactly the answer you are looking for, but I am not sure who produces a 10/0. If you are looking for a thin, strong thread to tie small midges and dry flies in sizes 18 and smaller, I might suggest looking into the Gordon Griffin 14/0. I recently purchased some from JSflyfishing.com and really like tying with it. It is nice and strong, lays flat, and comes in a wide range of colors for any fly you might be tying.


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 Post subject: Re: Thread Sizes
PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:44 am 
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Thanks for that info. I still have some 10/0 I got from Orvis and from Mick McCorkle more than a couple of years ago. It's been a good thread for #22-24, just limited in colors now. Might have to look into JS for the 14/0--sure has raving reviews.


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 Post subject: Re: Thread Sizes
PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:23 am 
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Orvis used to rebrand Gudebrod thread. Gudebrod made 10/0, and I agree that it was great stuff for really small flies. I REALLY liked the Gudebrod 6/0 and I'll remain chronically annoyed with them for ceasing to make it. Now they just make rod wrapping thread.

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 Post subject: Re: Thread Sizes
PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:15 pm 
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Agree totally. I have always liked Gudebrod and was quite surprised they quit the tying thread market. Seems there is so much "don't start liking it too much; they'll quit making it" going on.

Found the UTC makes a 50 Denier which will likely be fine. Am working with Bruce at Tackle Box Outfitters to get what I can.


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 Post subject: Re: Thread Sizes
PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:20 pm 
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Danny:

I know of no other company making 10/0 thread since Gudebrod stopped. The only thread I know that is both smaller and comes in a variety of colors is the Giorgio Benecchi unwaxed threads that come in size 12/0 and about 20 colors. The most complete stock I have found online is from Bob Marriott's Flyfishing Store in LA. They are also great at back-ordering the thread and shipping it when it comes in if they do not have it in stock. I recently purchased a spool of Uni-Trico 17/0 thread from them (it only comes in white), but have not yet tied with it.

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 Post subject: Re: Thread Sizes
PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:57 am 
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Thanks for that information. Mick. I found some Bennechi thread at one site (can't remember which one) and will likely look at getting some later. Bruce is going to get me some of the 50 Denier from Wapsi. It is supposedly equal to the very smallest but comes in limited and basic colors. I'll find out. He also found some Gudebrod 8/0 (I guess in the store room) that I'm going to get. It serves me well for almost everything I tie. I like Gudebrod and will take what I can get.

On that Uni-17/0, since it comes only in white, I'd be afraid I couldn't even see the thread on the hook. :lol: Color pens, I guess, would be a must.


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 Post subject: Re: Thread Sizes
PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:31 am 
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Gordon Griffiths' produces 14/0 threads in a variety of colors. I saw them listed most recently in the new Stone River Outfitters catalog.

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 Post subject: Re: Thread Sizes
PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:12 pm 
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I saw the Gordon Griffiths 14/0 on someone's web site, just don't remember which one it was. I looked at so many lately for thread. Bruce (at Tackle Box Outfitters) ordered me some UTC 50 denier which is advertised to be good for the tiniest flies. He also found me some Gudebrod 8/0 which I'm happy to buy from him. I am going to see how well that 50 denier works for me on smaller flies. If need be, I'll be in the hunt again.

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