Guadalupe Green Fly

Big Tiki · Post by **Big Tiki** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:17 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2WMh4G0 ... re=related

portalto · Post by **portalto** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:58 am

That is an interesting and easy to tie fly. I have had good luck in years past on an olive leech pattern in 12 or 14.

Big Tiki · Post by **Big Tiki** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:41 am

I found a link to that video while I was on the internet one night and thought what the heck.

Jimbo Roberts · Post by **Jimbo Roberts** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:07 pm

This is very much like the Guadalupana fly that been around for a long time. Basically a modified woolly bugger using a collar instead of a hackle spun the lenght of it's body. This is actually a good modification as the fly has less a tendancy to spin in the water as it's retrieved. It should work well. Jimbo

mickmcco · Post by **mickmcco** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:52 pm

I tied a bunch of smallish Guadalupanas to try on the trout up at the Blue River in Oklahoma, where my boys and I will head tomorrow morning, if we don't freeze first.

portalto · Post by **portalto** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:35 pm

The Guadalupana has a body of peacock herl that really seems to work well.

LabRat · Post by **LabRat** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:42 pm

I found that one last week on you tube as well. I was thinking it looked like a good damselfly imitation for carp as well...

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:21 pm

CTFF Central Texas Fly Fishers has a very similar fly that most members swear by. It's called a Matt's Bug after the member who developed it.

It has really impressed me as a fish catching bug!

It has a full body hackle. but the biggest differnce is the use of lead tape or wire to get it down in a current.

Jack

d ayer · Post by **d ayer** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:15 am

Here's the link for the Matt's bug.

[/url]http://www.ctff.org/flies/mattsbug/index.html[/url]

Was not the Guadalupana developed by Ray Chavaez?

david

john · Post by **john** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:46 am

Similar to that fly on YouTube, I have tied these flies for years without the hackle. I have a box full of them in different sizes and colors (olive, brown, green, white, purple). This is my own 'desert-island, one fly' fly. As far as I knew I came up with it at the vice one night when I was trying to come up with a good damsel fly imitation for carp. I just put on the bead chain eyes, one piece of maribou, tie in the tail, twist it up, wrap it, and tie it off. Done. I can crank out a bunch of them in a short period of time. I've never seen a need for a hackle, but maybe I will try it out.

One thing about my version is that the more fish you catch with it the 'buggier' it gets. That might essentially imitate a hackle on its own.

I've caught more than a dozen species of fish on this fly, so it works real well. My theory is that it is a fair approximation of a lot of different stuff that lives in the water, so it covers a pretty broad spectrum of situations.

mickmcco · Post by **mickmcco** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:03 am

The Guadalupana (olive marabou tail, peacock herl body, olive hackle collar, beadhead) was originated by Lefty Ray Chapa. There used to be patterns for the fly floating about the internet, but I haven't seen any recently.

d ayer · Post by **d ayer** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:40 pm

Thanks for the name correction, Mick.

Here's the link,
http://www.leftyray.com/coldwaterflies.htm

mickmcco · Post by **mickmcco** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:43 pm

Thanks for resurrecting the recipe. I tie it in sizes 12, 8, and 4, on a streamer hook. The bigger flies take two sets of peacock herls, tied one after another.