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AndyMac
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Re: We need Rain !

Post by AndyMac » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:06 pm

It looks to me like a lot of the rain the last 2 days is falling in the right places. Is it enough to make any significant impact?

Jimbo Roberts
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Re: We need Rain !

Post by Jimbo Roberts » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:51 am

The upper Basin caught some rain, but just enough to bring it off single digits.
Seems a lot of the rain there just soaked in really dry ground and didn't bring up the river much.
Most of the real heavy rains fell on the Medina, San Antonio, and Cibolo creek.
waterwatch.usgs.gov/?m=real&r=tx
It has not even reached Spring Branch yet which is still showing 2.73cfs.

Jimbo

Cassio
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Re: We need Rain !

Post by Cassio » Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:27 pm

What is canyon lake up to??

sgbaker
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Re: We need Rain !

Post by sgbaker » Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:44 pm

From gbra.org at 8:30 PM 9/9 , Canyon is at 903.02 msl , up 1.17 ft. Inflow is 2280 cfs.
Baker,
So much to learn, so little time

AndyMac
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Re: We need Rain !

Post by AndyMac » Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:11 pm

I've really just started paying close attention-iIt looks like rain in Gillespie County is the key to Canyon Lake level/Guadalupe river flow.

And it looks like there's been steady rain this week that I would think would have raised Canyon even more.

What's the target level for Canyon at this time of year and in early 2019 for optimum fishing?

Texjbq
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Re: We need Rain !

Post by Texjbq » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:53 am

910 - We got a long way to go.

Cassio
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Re: We need Rain !

Post by Cassio » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:04 am

Texjbq wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:53 am
910 - We got a long way to go.
We sure do :cry: but we should also be patient and not wish upon so much water at once that it disturbs the cold water under story. This steady rain is key, we just need it to continue throughout the fall and winter. Signs are pointing to a wet next couple of months.

Texjbq
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Re: We need Rain !

Post by Texjbq » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:38 am

AndyMac wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:11 pm
It looks like rain in Gillespie County is the key to Canyon Lake level/Guadalupe river flow.
Yes, a little bit of Gillespie County does runs into the Guad, but we really want Kerr county to get rain. Specifically west of Kerrville where the springs that start the river are located. Also, the fishing up there is fantastic.
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Re: We need Rain !

Post by Jimbo Roberts » Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:18 pm

Just a note the trigger date for the Flow Agreement to kick in May15th (lake reaching pool at the day or anytime during the Flow Agreement period)More importantly the lake level must be 909'msl or above (not 910'msl). And yes that's a lot of needed rain to bring the lake up to that level.
The good news is we have a good start on that target. These past rains have saturated the soil and continued rains will more easily raise river flows into the lake. NOAA is predicted an El Nino to kick in this fall and winter and hopefully that will bring the rains we need to get the sustaining cold summer flows.

Jimbo

Texjbq
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Re: We need Rain !

Post by Texjbq » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:10 am

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Could be a good next 48 hours for the inflow. Fingers crossed.

Texjbq
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Re: We need Rain !

Post by Texjbq » Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:33 am

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This is good!
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Jimbo Roberts
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Re: We need Rain !

Post by Jimbo Roberts » Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:32 pm

The lake came up to 905.5'msl overnight, that's over 3/4 a foot. If it keeps raining in the upper water shed we may see pool before Thanksgiving which would be great !!! So.....

Tom tom tom tom.....
Tom tom tom tom.....
Tom tom tom tom.....

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Re: We need Rain !

Post by Texjbq » Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:44 pm

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Looking Good, with more potentially on the way.

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Re: We need Rain !

Post by Jimbo Roberts » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:43 pm

The upper Guadalupe has not caught much rain yet. We are in a wet pattern and likely to stay that way for some time.
I am hoping for a gradual rise of the lake to maintain the thermocline. That being said this winter is looking good. Flows are already 95cfs.
With continued rains I am expecting the lake to get to pool and then you will see increases in releases from the dam.
And if we're lucky we might get, the holy grail, cold sustaining summer flows. If I could ask and get one thing, this last year of being V P of Fisheries, it would be that our LAP members see and experience the Trout fishing on the Guadalupe during cold sustaining summer flows. The last time we had them was 2010 and it was the best summer I've ever seen for the Guadalupe Fishery in my entire life.

Jimbo

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Re: We need Rain !

Post by Jimbo Roberts » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:42 pm

Update 8:39pm

The Upper Guadalupe is flooding the North Fork alone has gone from 8cfs to 7210cfs and still rising.
Heavy rain should continue overnight and into tomorrow evening.
I am hoping we don't get a 100,000cfs flood like they did on the Llano today.

Jimbo

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