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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:06 pm
by mickmcco
The flies are for both the Blue and the Guad. The Blue is two hours north of here, the Guad is 4.5 hours south.

Since one of the dominant forms of bug life on the Blue is the dobsonfly, I'm tying olive woolly buggers and Guadalupanas to emulate the dobsonfly larva, also known as a hellgrammite. The Blue also has a fair number of Tricos and small, light-colored midges (or did on my only trip up there), so I'm tying more of those as well.

The rest of the flies are to fill holes in my Guad boxes.

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:36 pm
by dale_connally
For those not familiar with the Yong's special. ... pecial.htm


Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:18 pm
That Yong's fly is deceptively simple. It made me start to think about twinning methods for threads. Has anyone ever taken two threads and wound them together (like a black and a red) to get a different effect for wrapping on flies?

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:41 pm
by mickmcco
Sure have. There's a guy named Don Holbook who wrote a book called Midge Magic. In it, he described his research on midges -- microscopic studies of the contents of trout stomachs -- that led him to use two contrasting threads, wrapped together, to form the body of a midge pupa or larva. It's a fascinating book and he's devised some killer patterns.

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:01 pm
As always Mick you are a fount of knowledge - a real life Cliff Clavin (meant with the utmost of respect).

Looks like I have some reading to do. :D

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:17 pm
by Alex Argyros
An interesting variation of this idea is Charlie Craven's Jujubee series of flies, which uses multiple strands of superhair to form fly bodies. The segmentation he achieves with minimal bulk is incredible.

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:27 am
by mickmcco
I've been called a lot of things before, but never Cliff Clavin! :P

Charlie's Jujubee flies look great. I bought the materials, but never tied them. They are both online at his site:

And in his new book: Charlie Craven's Basic Fly Tying

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:33 am
by Danny S
I've tried, but had a hard time keeping the superhair from twisting as I wound it. It's crucial to keep them lined properly while building the body so the "rib" color stays in alignment, but the superhair is sooooo fine. Maybe one of these days I'll figure it out. Would say one of four turned out just OK. I may tackle it again one day.

His recipe is great in that the superhair gives that effect of epoxy or glue on the body, without the bulk.

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:26 am
by Alex Argyros

I had problems with the superhair twisting too. My solution was to use the rotary feature of my vise (helps a lot) and to keep the cluster a 90 degree angle to the shank of the hook even when I was starting to wind the superhair around the bend (i.e., don't try to follow the bend with the superhair, keep it at a right angle to the main body of the hook).

It also helps to build a super smooth base on the hook with your tying thread.

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:39 am
by Jimbo Roberts
The Jujubee Midge looks good enough to make me want to start tying some up!

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:12 am
by Danny S
Thanks Alex--good tip!