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Guadalupe Green Fly

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:17 pm
by Big Tiki

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:58 am
by portalto
That is an interesting and easy to tie fly. I have had good luck in years past on an olive leech pattern in 12 or 14.

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:41 am
by Big Tiki
I found a link to that video while I was on the internet one night and thought what the heck.

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:07 pm
by Jimbo Roberts
This is very much like the Guadalupana fly that been around for a long time. Basically a modified woolly bugger using a collar instead of a hackle spun the lenght of it's body. This is actually a good modification as the fly has less a tendancy to spin in the water as it's retrieved. It should work well. Jimbo

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:52 pm
by mickmcco
I tied a bunch of smallish Guadalupanas to try on the trout up at the Blue River in Oklahoma, where my boys and I will head tomorrow morning, if we don't freeze first.

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:35 pm
by portalto
The Guadalupana has a body of peacock herl that really seems to work well.

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:42 pm
by LabRat
I found that one last week on you tube as well. I was thinking it looked like a good damselfly imitation for carp as well...

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:21 pm
by Jack
CTFF Central Texas Fly Fishers has a very similar fly that most members swear by. It's called a Matt's Bug after the member who developed it.

It has really impressed me as a fish catching bug!

It has a full body hackle. but the biggest differnce is the use of lead tape or wire to get it down in a current.

Jack

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:15 am
by d ayer
Here's the link for the Matt's bug.

[/url]http://www.ctff.org/flies/mattsbug/index.html[/url]


Was not the Guadalupana developed by Ray Chavaez?

david

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:46 am
by john
Similar to that fly on YouTube, I have tied these flies for years without the hackle. I have a box full of them in different sizes and colors (olive, brown, green, white, purple). This is my own 'desert-island, one fly' fly. As far as I knew I came up with it at the vice one night when I was trying to come up with a good damsel fly imitation for carp. I just put on the bead chain eyes, one piece of maribou, tie in the tail, twist it up, wrap it, and tie it off. Done. I can crank out a bunch of them in a short period of time. I've never seen a need for a hackle, but maybe I will try it out.

One thing about my version is that the more fish you catch with it the 'buggier' it gets. That might essentially imitate a hackle on its own.

I've caught more than a dozen species of fish on this fly, so it works real well. My theory is that it is a fair approximation of a lot of different stuff that lives in the water, so it covers a pretty broad spectrum of situations.

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:03 am
by mickmcco
The Guadalupana (olive marabou tail, peacock herl body, olive hackle collar, beadhead) was originated by Lefty Ray Chapa. There used to be patterns for the fly floating about the internet, but I haven't seen any recently.

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:40 pm
by d ayer
Thanks for the name correction, Mick.

Here's the link,
http://www.leftyray.com/coldwaterflies.htm

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:43 pm
by mickmcco
Thanks for resurrecting the recipe. I tie it in sizes 12, 8, and 4, on a streamer hook. The bigger flies take two sets of peacock herls, tied one after another.